Legislature(1993 - 1994)
02/02/1994 03:00 PM House HES
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HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES
STANDING COMMITTEE
February 2, 1994
3:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Rep. Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair
Rep. Con Bunde, Co-Chair
Rep. Gary Davis, Vice Chair
Rep. Al Vezey
Rep. Harley Olberg
Rep. Bettye Davis
MEMBERS ABSENT
Rep. Pete Kott
Rep. Irene Nicholia (excused)
Rep. Tom Brice
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
*HB 327: "An Act extending the termination date of the
Board of Veterinary Examiners; and providing for
an effective date."
PASSED WITH INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS
*HB 361: "An Act making an appropriation to the Department
of Education for support of kindergarten, primary,
and secondary education and community schools
programs; and providing for an effective date."
NOT HEARD - POSTPONED
(* First public hearing)
WITNESS REGISTER
KARL LUCK, Director
Division of Occupational Licensing
Department of Commerce and Economic Development
P.O. Box 110806
Juneau, Alaska 99811-0806
Phone: (907) 456-2538
Position Statement: Testified in support of HB 327
BARBARA J. MARCISAK, Member
State Board of Veterinary Examiners
HC04 Box 9563
Palmer, Alaska 99645
Phone: (907) 745-5742
Position Statement: Asked questions regarding HB 327
PREVIOUS ACTION
BILL: HB 327
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) TOOHEY,BUNDE,Green
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
01/03/94 2012 (H) PREFILE RELEASED
01/10/94 2012 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
01/10/94 2013 (H) HES, FINANCE
01/12/94 2042 (H) JOINT SPONSORSHIP:TOOHEY,BUNDE
01/14/94 2083 (H) COSPONSOR(S): GREEN
02/02/94 (H) HES AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 106
BILL: HB 361
SHORT TITLE: APPROP: EDUCATION FUNDING FOR FY 95
SPONSOR(S): FINANCE
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
01/11/94 2032 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
01/11/94 2033 (H) HES, FINANCE
02/02/94 (H) HES AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 106
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 94-08, SIDE A
Number 000
VICE-CHAIR GARY DAVIS called the meeting to order at 3:08
p.m. and asked for roll to be called. Rep. Kott and Rep.
Brice were not in attendance. Rep. Nicholia was excused.
Vice-Chair G. Davis introduced HB 327 to the table.
HB 327 - EXTEND BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS
Number 046
REP. CYNTHIA TOOHEY, Prime Sponsor of HB 327, stated that
the State Board of Veterinary Examiners passed the current
sunset date on June 30, 1993. She was asked by DR. JIM
LEACH to extend the sunset date through 1997. Rep. Toohey
felt it was a reasonable amount of time, although most
boards are at ten years. Given the current fiscal climate,
she felt it was important for the board to pay its own way.
Rep. Toohey referred to the fiscal note and stated that the
annual revenue exceeded the annual cost.
REP. TOOHEY introduced KARL LUCK, Director of Occupational
Licensing and BARBARA MARCISAK, Member, State Board of
Veterinary Examiners.
Number 119
REP. VEZEY asked Rep. Toohey if the director of the State
Board of Veterinary Examiners was a paid position.
Number 130
REP. TOOHEY said that she thought it was a non-paying
position and referred to Mr. Luck.
Number 132
MR. LUCK replied that there are no salaries for board
members, but there is per diem.
Number 138
REP. VEZEY asked if there were salaries for staff.
Number 139
MR. LUCK said that occupational licensing is paid for
through fees.
Number 144
REP. VEZEY asked why there was no fiscal note for that.
Number 145
MR. LUCK responded that there was no increase to the fiscal
note from what was normally charged.
Number 151
REP. VEZEY restated the annual cost as being $28,100 and the
annual revenue as being $33,900.
Number 172
MR. LUCK further stated that the reason for the zero fiscal
note was because there was no increase or decrease to the
budget.
Number 187
REP. VEZEY asked if that was proper criteria for a zero
fiscal note.
Number 186
MR. LUCK replied that it was the criteria that has been used
for all the board's previous bills.
Number 203
REP. TOOHEY, to clarify, asked if the annual cost of $28,100
went to pay for Mr. Luck's staff and part of his salary.
Number 212
MR. LUCK answered yes. He stated that the entire division's
budget was funded by all receipts from licensing. He
further stated that the tracking system used to determine
when license fees are due had been changed by
recommendations from a previous audit. A "positive time-
keeping" system was suggested, meaning that a licensing
examiner would keep track of his/her time on a daily basis
so that all their salary and benefits and all other expenses
would be directly charged to the board that was being
examined. As a result of the system change, Mr. Luck said
that staffing problems had arisen due to changing from a
system where there was one budget dealing with the aggregate
to 32 individual budgets. He said that issue would be
addressed in the 1995 budget.
Number 290
VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS stated for the record that Rep. Bunde
arrived at 3:12 p.m.
Number 295
REP. VEZEY asked what the impact on the budget would be if
the licensing period went from two years to three or five
years.
Number 310
MR. LUCK said that there would be no impact on the budget.
He stated that there were approximately 309 veterinarians
that have a two-year licensing fee of $200 (for two years).
Number 326
REP. VEZEY asked if licensing every third year would be
cheaper time-wise than every two years.
Number 337
MR. LUCK replied that the cost would reduce, and also
perhaps the time it would take to do renewals.
Number 356
REP. VEZEY questioned if the proposal would be the
appropriate vehicle to address the licensing period in. He
wondered if that would be violating the "single-subject
act."
Number 368
MR. LUCK stated that he was not an expert on such matters,
and said he did not see it as a problem.
Number 371
REP. VEZEY stated the two issues as being the sunset date
for extending the board and the period that a license is
valid.
Number 389
MR. LUCK said that to change the licensing period of one
board would "get the money out of sync," as one board is
collected from one year and another from the alternate year.
Number 413
REP. BUNDE said that the bill did not include the duties of
the board of examiners. He felt it would be a separate
bill.
Number 426
REP. VEZEY stated that it would require a change in the
title, but it would not violate the single-subject rule. It
would be a valid bill.
Number 434
REP. TOOHEY asked for comments or questions from BARBARA
MARCISAK.
Number 437
BARBARA MARCISAK, Member, State Board of Veterinary
Examiners, asked if money would be saved by extending the
licensing period.
Number 460
REP. VEZEY said that if paperwork were processed on an
annual basis, one would have "X" amount of paperwork. If
the paperwork was done biannually, one would have "X" amount
of paperwork divided by two.
Number 467
REP. OLBERG felt that the $100 fee annually was very
inexpensive.
Number 479
MR. LUCK asserted that the fees were set based on the
expenses the board incurs.
Number 500
VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS asked if there were any recommendations
from the committee on HB 327.
Number 503
REP. BUNDE recommended that the committee move HB 327 out of
committee with individual recommendations.
Number 507
VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS asked if there were any objections.
Hearing no objections, the bill was so moved. He stated
that discussion for HB 361 had been postponed.
Seeing no further business before the committee, VICE-CHAIR
G. DAVIS adjourned the meeting at 3:22 p.m.
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